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    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Gold Traditional Plakat sibling pair from spawn 16-031, fish IDs: 16-031-I, 16-031-6.
      Introduced: 11 October 2016.
      Spawned: 13 October 2016.
      Hatched: 14 October 2016.
      Dad removed: 18 October 2016.

      Line Notes:
      Parents are the F1 generation after re-acquiring my Super Gold PK import line. Copper was introduced two generations back to correct fading metallic coverage and body color. Results are that about 60% of spawn 16-031 show varying amounts of copper coverage, ranging from copper sides to pineapple-like copper scale edges. Other genes introduced include butterfly pattern and red-dot fins (approx 3% of the spawn showed one or the other).

      Father of this spawn shows slight butterfly pattern but is clean of copper, female shows no butterfly nor copper. Female is the better formed fish here.
      Gold PK Parents

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Small Spawn. Male was excessively aggressive, body slammed female alot. Female only released maybe half her eggs, if that. Probably around 30 eggs.

      Gold PK eggs

      Full hatch out, great father so far.

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      Dad with fry on 16 Oct 2016.

      Fry, 16 October 2016

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Drat, it looks like dad culled quite a number of them. I also made a critical error… I didn’t feed my vinegar eels a few months ago. So they’re giving me NADA in the collection station. I decapped and set up some BSE this morning in hopes I can get them hatched and fed in time to feed the remaining. I can count only 10 or so.

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      …and then there were two. I cupped them and they’re floating in my planted tank. They’re eating well at least. A lot of the ones that died never got horizontal, they kept doing the bobbing movement. *sigh* In my house that’s usually a sign that my water was too hard–which makes sense because that’s the first time in AGES I haven’t done my RO/tap mix. So much for hoping I could get away with not bothering.

      I set mom and dad back up last night. Dad is building a hefty nest again and I’ll be dripping in some RO this afternoon.

      In the mean time, everyone else is enjoying the extra BBS snacks. 🙂

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Second Try- 16-033

      Reset: 26 October 2016
      Spawned: 28 October 2016
      Hatched: 30 October 2016
      Dad Removed: 1 November 2016

      Much better this time. They spawned within two hours of releasing the female (I missed it because I left the house for an hour and came home to him running her off). The male is still SUPER aggressive! Its funny, he doesn’t go for her fins, he just nails the living daylights out of her side like a missile. I know in the fighting world they do talk about the fight-style of the fish, I guess that was my demonstration. Its kind of a nice difference though, despite his bad attitude I could still show her on this very day.

      16-033 28 Oct 2016

      16-033 28 Oct 2016

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Great hatch out! Its amazing how much mixing my water with RO water helps things. No bobbing babies this time.

      I also think covering the male helped this time. He’s a really protective dude, so making the world less threatening for him made things better.

      16-033 Hatch 30 Oct 2016

      16-033 Hatch 30 Oct 2016

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      It took me almost 10 minutes to get daddy away from his babies today when it was time to remove him. *sigh* He was attacking the stick I was using to move him.

    • Anonymous
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      Cool Stacy they look amazing I saw some at the show!

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Just about to move them into their new 20 gallon grow out.

      Fry on 4 November 2016, just prior to moving to 20 gallon tank.

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      I ended up taking some lovely photos of the parents of this spawn before they went to their new home with Auntie Liz in Hawaii.
      16-031-06 (2)
      16-031-I (5)

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Gold is starting to pop up, pictures at 10 days old.

      Fry @ 10 days old 2

      Fry @ 10 days old 1

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      2 week old update. 🙂

      16-033 2wks_1

      16-033 2wks_2

      16-033 2wks_3

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      20 days old
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    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Starting to get interested in inert foods @ 3.5 weeks old. Right on track. Size is little smaller this last week than normal for me, my BBS hatchery has been producing very poorly, so they haven’t had meals big enough to make fat bellies much. Heidi Burkle is sending me some grindal worms to save my buns but with the holiday weekend its taking a bit. They ought to see me through till they’re more reliably taking inert foods.

      A few of them checking out a chunk of Rapashy Spawn N Grow (day 4 of offering it).
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    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Stopped feeding BBS as of yesterday. They are now getting one large meal of grindal worms daily, a meal or two of 100-200 micron Golden Pearls and Repashy Spawn & Grow to snack on at all times. Today my daphnia gave birth, so I harvested a ton of the babies and the fry had a feast. There are still plenty swimming under the lights, so they’ll be snacking on them tomorrow as well.

      Did my first cull today. A few with poorly developed swim bladders, a few with bad toplines and a few tiny babies that insisted on living off of eating air bubbles….culled 12 in total.

    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      I started using Selcon once daily one month ago today. Here’s some comparison shots of the same fish.

      Before starting (12/6/16):
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      8 days on Selcon (12/14/16):
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      1 month on Selcon (1/6/17):
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    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Growing these guys out has been a bit frustrating. My BBS stopped hatching well in the 2 weeks that I needed to be feeding them, requiring that I bring in some grindal worms as an emergency measure. They had a rather lean few weeks there. Once I got them on dry foods I quickly realized that the nutritional value of those foods had gone to nothing… despite staying on top of their water changes like a crazy person, I kept seeing topline issues. That’s not normal for this spawn and much to my dismay, I ended up needing to cull almost all of the biggest fish and quite a few of the smaller ones too. I’m left with about 40 of the mid-sized fish, which, at 9 weeks now are on average around 3/4″ BL. The biggest ones, if they hadn’t been culled would have been at least 1″ now. Anyhow.. pics.

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    • luisinavarro@yahoo.com
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      Jarred the first set of fish.

      033-C
      033-C

      033-1
      033-1

      033-2
      033-2

      • Bill L
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        Great Spawning log … we should post more of this type of information. Can you explain Selcon? Thanks Stacy

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