I think I may have finally gotten them in the spawning mood, (knock on wood). I have tried everything, water changes, plant arrangements, rain water, IAL tea, various live foods, mirror flaring, etc. Yesterday I upped the temperature by about 4 degrees. I waited 24 hours and dropped it back down, today there is circling and nudging of the peduncle areas. They have teased me before, though… *fingers crossed*